From ... From: Erik Naggum Subject: Re: Theory #51 (superior(?) programming languages) Date: 1997/01/28 Message-ID: <3063475763718260@naggum.no>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 212816762 references: <5c68g1$d4i@web.nmti.com> <5c8g6k$k0v@web.nmti.com> <1997Jan24.113633.6228@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> <854364833snz@wildcard.demon.co.uk> <32ECCF3D.19B2@smarts.com> <32ED2469.4BBEC6CF@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> mail-copies-to: never organization: Naggum Software; +47 2295 0313; http://www.naggum.no newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.scheme * Bernd Paysan | But as C and Unix were hacker projects around '70 and got public (in the | broader sense) at around '80, a step back by 10 years should be expected, | anyway. Basic was a Hacker project in the 60th, and DOS was crap | only. And that's what many people use now, although it's cluttered with | Windows, the worst GUI incarnation (from the CS point of view) the world | has seen yet. a while ago, somebody posted a summary of programming cultures, noting that Microsoft is basically growing a whole new culture from scratch, rejecting all other cultures and what they have built. considering that it has taken 50+ years of research and very serious thinking by many more good people than Microsoft could ever hire, we should _expect_ that programmers under constant pressure to release products are no match for researchers. it's just like C and DOS and those other products they build: they effectively fail to recognize that cultures can be built "vertically", and instead build them "horizontally". #\Erik -- 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine -- a basic ingredient in quality software.