From ... From: Erik Naggum Subject: Re: wretched C++ (Was: Ousterhout and Tcl lost the plot with latest paper) Date: 1997/04/23 Message-ID: <3070775097664615@naggum.no>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 236777705 References: <335B9CA3.41C6@nospam.acm.org> <335D64A7.167E@nospam.acm.org> <335D8429.41C6@nospam.acm.org> mail-copies-to: never Organization: Naggum Software; +47 2295 0313; http://www.naggum.no Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.scsh,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.tcl,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.lang.python,comp.lang.eiffel * Thant Tessman | C++ is *full* of bullshit like this and I've spent way too much of my | life fighting it. it was C++ that finally made me realize that I should pursue Common Lisp as my programming language of choice. that was after I had written about 2000 lines of C++ code in a hacked-up language that I processed with Emacs Lisp to reduce the phenomenal clutter and redundancy of C++. my code was 600 lines in this proto-language, and 300 lines of Emacs Lisp. I had reinvented a tiny portion of CLOS. if it were not for C++, it might have taken more a little longer to get to Common Lisp. my conclusion was that "life is too long to know C++ well", and that in C++, "reinvention is its own reward". #\Erik -- Bastard Sex Therapist from Hell: "Read the F*cking Manual!"