Subject: Re: Lisp is neither (was Re: Ousterhout and Tcl lost the plot)
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 1997/04/24
Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.tcl,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.lang.python,comp.lang.eiffel
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* Donal K. Fellows
| In particular, your "facts" often seem to be either inaccurate, wrong or

no, Donal, my facts are not inaccurate.  what I write is very seldom wrong.
when I am uncertain or know that I lack information to be certain, I don't
post.  (this does make the errors I make important, but it's easy to fix
big mistakes.  it is much harder to correct minor mistakes, so I have set a
goal not to make minor mistakes.)  I may have strong opinions on certain
issues, but that's not where you see me most irate.  the only thing I truly
hate is unmethodical people, because it is impossible to trust anything
they say.  if you have no consistent methodology for separating wish from
opinion from uncertainty from certainty, you _will_ post drivel and confuse
issues and make a hell of a lot of _easily avoidable_ mistakes.  _that_ is
what I object to in many articles.  (and no, even if your job is advocacy,
that doesn't make everybody else's job advocacy.  to correct misinformation
is more than enough work.  somebody else can do the advocacy.)

if we work really hard, will obsolescence be farther ahead or closer?