Subject: Re: CLIM and GUI builders From: Erik Naggum <email@example.com> Date: 1998/09/19 Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> * email@example.com (David Steuber "The Interloper") | HTTP is a protocol, not a GUI. | | HTML is not a GUI either. you miss the point. today's GUI's are generally built out of hard-coded event handlers. a language that could describe the display and the events and associate them with protocol elements such that it would all be data-driven (instead of code-driven) and which required a protocol between the server and the client such that the server only dealt with function calls returning values to the client and the client did all the event handling and dispatching and display, would cause a giant leap forward in GUI design and simplify the tasks involved _tremendously_. but thanks to Microsoft, we now mostly have code-driven GUIs that are as portable as the average Egyptian pyramid and which ensure as much "full employment" as the same pyramids, and we now mostly have people who don't even understand the differences and the layering of language, protocol, and display engine. this saddens me greatly, because such crap as HTML and HTTP appear to be solutions. #:Erik -- ATTENTION, all abducting aliens! you DON'T need to RETURN them!