Subject: Re: A few questions, Alan Turing and LISP? From: Erik Naggum <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: 1999/02/09 Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy,comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <email@example.com> * "Gary H. Merrill" <firstname.lastname@example.org> | You still don't get it. having worked with an employee to introduce Linux to a company that had a similar policy to the one you refer to, I have some solid evidence that I understand what kinds of concerns managers have and how to answer them. of course, if it suits you to ignore any and all proof that you might succeed if you actually tried, that's your problem. I know how such policies come to be and how to change them without scaring managers who have legitimate concerns behind their decisions, not just the religious edicts you imply that these policies are. that you don't understand how to deal with these things is not my problem. I'm not trying to change your mind, I'm just trying to make you aware that you make invalid claims in the interest of making the _real_ concerns explicit. enough stupid people hide behind things they don't _want_ to change to make it necessary to figure out what they are frightened of. you give me a very powerful hint that you are indeed afraid of something. had I had any incentive (a lot of money) to convince you and your managers otherwise, I would have succeeded in it, even if you can't. | The fact that Linux is "a fully supported commercial operation system" is | not sufficient. What matters is *who* supports it. Unless it is | supported by the *vendor* (as is OSF/1 for the Alpha, HP/UX, and Solaris) | many (if not most, if not all) large IT organizations will *not* have | anything to do with it. you appear to speak without knowledge of the Linux market. e.g., both RedHat and Caldera are vendors of considerable size who support their own Linux distributions and are held accountable for the systems they have delivered. I'm not talking about the many hackers around the world who make Linux a great system and for which some people have great disdain, and who accept money for supporting people. | Yeah, see ... if you are dealing with just tiny programs than almost any | hardware will do. it seems you have a problem with your assumption-generator: it appears to be completely unchecked by facts or other input from the outside world. a dual processor with 512M RAM and 40+ G of disk is not a good buy when you have "tiny programs" and "almost any hardware will do", it's a waste of money because "almost any hardware" is even _cheaper_. I don't think further input to you would be anything but a waste, either. #:Erik -- Y2K conversion simplified: Januark, Februark, March, April, Mak, June, Julk, August, September, October, November, December.