Subject: Re: Visual Lisp ++
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 1999/06/22
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* "jamie" <>
| I guess this may seem like a daft request, but considering the explosion
| of GUI based integrated development environments on the (PC, Microsoft
| VisualStudio, IBM Visual Age and Borland Delphi, C++, J++ builder) is
| there a Lisp development environment that might be call something like
| Visual Lisp ++ ???

  this is actually quite alarming.  "++" has become a mark of quality, or
  at least something to be desired, however bad the starting point was.
  what's next?  "Kosovo++"?  or would that be "Visual NATO++ - proactive
  defense, as seen on TV!"?

  now, there actually exist GUI IDE's for Common Lisp that look like what
  GUI people seem to expect.  warning: they still use parentheses, not the
  nice colors you might want.  try for their Windows port.

@1999-07-22T00:37:33Z -- pi billion seconds since the turn of the century