Subject: Re: Free Lisp Responsibilities  Was: Is LISP dying?
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 1999/07/24
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* (Rainer Joswig)
| On the other hand, LispWorks ships with no source.
| CLIM ships with no source. Does ACL come with source?

  Allegro CL comes with a lot of source for paying licensees who send in an
  additional license agreement.  it allows local modifications, but not in
  any way redistribution to non-licensees.

| I would like a more open approach to delivery of source code. Let people
| read and learn, let them change it, let them write new versions, let them
| improve things, ... - if you fear that users will break things, then you
| are already dead.

  I wonder why you ignore the existence of the many really destructive
  people out there.  there are people who are not going to be constructive
  no matter what you say or give or do to them, and you can't require a
  psychological profile of your customers before you give them source,
  either.  obviously, protecting yourself from an unknown enemy will always
  look like you're casting unknown people as enemies, but the onus of proof
  that he is no enemy is on the unknown person, who should easily be able
  to make himself sufficiently well known.  failure to do so would be a
  reason not to divulge that which could harm.

| Everything that helps application writers must be of high priority.

  I consider the survival of the company who provides the application
  writer with his tools to be a higher priority, not just for the company,
  but for the next application writer who wants the same tools.

  suppose we blasted all politicians into space.
  would the SETI project find even one of them?