Subject: Re: Affordable Common Lisp implementations on Win95/98/NT?
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 2000/06/23
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

| Well, it is your right to be disappointed by my message, as I was
| disappointed by what I found. And I also feel that I have the right
| to express my disappointment as you have the right to express yours.

  When you invoke rights where they clearly have no place, you tell me
  that you have no intention of listening to anyone but yourself, and
  thus strongly reinforce my negative impression of your business here.

| As a side note, if Franz Inc did also offer a full but older version
| of Common Lisp on Windows, as it does on Linux, I would have been
| very interested.

  They do that on Linux?  I'm not as much bothered by the fact that
  you post misleading, negative stuff as that you seem completely
  oblivious to the fact that you assume without due cause that you are
  entirely correct in everything you say even when there is evidence
  to the contrary either presented to you, bordering on the bloody
  obvious, or very easily available.

  Franz Inc likes to work _with_ their customers.  This means you have
  to engage in the unusual task of talking to a vendor, not just order
  some stuff over the Net on a take it or leave it basis.  It also
  means _you_ need a serious attitude readjustment before you approach
  them.  You sound like the world owes you a break -- and I know of no
  vendor of anything who will respond nicely to such an attitude,
  especially not when you ask for free stuff.

  If you were so "very interested" as you'd like me to believe, you
  wouldn't be put off by silliness and prejudice.  If you were honest
  in your desire to use Lisp on the Windows platform, disappointment
  is the last I would expect.  So I assume your disappointment is real
  and your stated desire is not.

| Once again, it is your right to have other expectations than mine.

  I think perhaps you should read my .signature.

  Quit this talk about "rights", please.  You insult the concept.

  If this is not what you expected, please alter your expectations.