Subject: Re: Access the the second return value? From: Erik Naggum <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: 2000/06/28 Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <email@example.com> * Johan Kullstam <firstname.lastname@example.org> | i think i'm intentionally not caring what the "!" convention means in | scheme or dylan. some lisp operations end in an "f", e.g., SETF, INCF. | one could have spelled it SET! and INC! respectively. it seems most | people here prefer the traditional way. so be it. No. They would be probably spelled SETF! and INCF!, since the F has nothing at all to do with mutating anything, it has to do with what is being accessed (and mutated). Please understand this and quit that annoying noise about the suffix F. It's dead wrong. Repeating it so annoyingly often means you don't listen, and that very likely means your other notions are not based on listening, either, which is a very nice way of saying that they are your own inventions. #:Erik -- If this is not what you expected, please alter your expectations.