Subject: Re: Allegro CL 6.0 Trial Edition
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 30 Oct 2000 05:54:16 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* "Janos Blazi" <>
| I think it is psychologically difficult to accept this scheme as
| 'modern languages' like Python, Perl and Java are free and Microsoft
| C++ is vitually free for students (at least is Germany).

  I hope it occurs to you some day that Allegro CL is not a
  mass-market product and that you grasp the ramifications of that
  distinction from Python, Perl, Java and C++.

| But of course it is up to you to run your business as you prefer to;
| I was simply stunned when I read that "new licence file every month"
| busines which I have never seen before.

  And you still think you're smack dab in the middle of the people who
  are the likely target audience of their efforts?  As far as I can
  see from your past and present contributions here, you never intend
  to purchase a license from them, anyway.  Is it really honest of you
  to complain that what you get for free is not free enough?

  How many customers in your price range do you think Franz Inc would
  need to be able to do your bidding?  I think 100,000 would be a fair
  suggestion.  Do you think there _are_ that many Common Lisp users
  just waiting for a mass-market price?  I know there aren't.

  If Franz Inc's expensive (for them) and therefore generous Trial
  Edition project means they get 100 new staying customers, while
  making it possible for perhaps many more people to try it out, they
  have made a huge win, both for themselves _and_ for Common Lisp.

  That Janos Blazi, who would never become a customer, anyway, whines
  and whimpers is a loss, both for Franz Inc _and_ for Common Lisp.

  It's no secret that I think you're the stupidest person who has ever
  remained a recurring phenomenon on comp.lang.lisp, but I still want
  you to consider what you are doing to hurt the language you want to
  use by your useless whining and whimpering against the free offering
  of a product you never intend to purchase, anyway.

  It is psychologically difficult to accept that you keep posting.  I
  suggest you stop until you have become more used to exert the effort
  required to determine whether your actions are destructive or not.

  Does anyone remember where I parked Air Force One?
                                   -- George W. Bush