From ... Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!news-feed.riddles.org.uk!fr.clara.net!small.fr.clara.net!news.tele.dk!128.39.3.166!uninett.no!Norway.EU.net!127.0.0.1!nobody From: Erik Naggum Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Allegro CL 6.0 Trial Edition Date: 30 Oct 2000 05:54:16 +0000 Organization: Naggum Software; vox: +47 800 35477; gsm: +47 93 256 360; fax: +47 93 270 868; http://naggum.no; http://naggum.net Lines: 46 Message-ID: <3181874056716443@naggum.net> References: <39fac869_1@goliath.newsfeeds.com> <8the57$6i$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <39fc7544_5@goliath.newsfeeds.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: oslo-nntp.eunet.no 972893618 4260 195.0.192.66 (30 Oct 2000 08:13:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@eunet.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Oct 2000 08:13:38 GMT mail-copies-to: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.lisp:2872 * "Janos Blazi" | I think it is psychologically difficult to accept this scheme as | 'modern languages' like Python, Perl and Java are free and Microsoft | C++ is vitually free for students (at least is Germany). I hope it occurs to you some day that Allegro CL is not a mass-market product and that you grasp the ramifications of that distinction from Python, Perl, Java and C++. | But of course it is up to you to run your business as you prefer to; | I was simply stunned when I read that "new licence file every month" | busines which I have never seen before. And you still think you're smack dab in the middle of the people who are the likely target audience of their efforts? As far as I can see from your past and present contributions here, you never intend to purchase a license from them, anyway. Is it really honest of you to complain that what you get for free is not free enough? How many customers in your price range do you think Franz Inc would need to be able to do your bidding? I think 100,000 would be a fair suggestion. Do you think there _are_ that many Common Lisp users just waiting for a mass-market price? I know there aren't. If Franz Inc's expensive (for them) and therefore generous Trial Edition project means they get 100 new staying customers, while making it possible for perhaps many more people to try it out, they have made a huge win, both for themselves _and_ for Common Lisp. That Janos Blazi, who would never become a customer, anyway, whines and whimpers is a loss, both for Franz Inc _and_ for Common Lisp. It's no secret that I think you're the stupidest person who has ever remained a recurring phenomenon on comp.lang.lisp, but I still want you to consider what you are doing to hurt the language you want to use by your useless whining and whimpering against the free offering of a product you never intend to purchase, anyway. It is psychologically difficult to accept that you keep posting. I suggest you stop until you have become more used to exert the effort required to determine whether your actions are destructive or not. #:Erik -- Does anyone remember where I parked Air Force One? -- George W. Bush