From ... Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!xfer13.netnews.com!netnews.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!127.0.0.1!nobody From: Erik Naggum Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Allegro CL 6.0 Trial Edition Date: 30 Oct 2000 21:03:23 +0000 Organization: Naggum Software; vox: +47 800 35477; gsm: +47 93 256 360; fax: +47 93 270 868; http://naggum.no; http://naggum.net Lines: 42 Message-ID: <3181928603088581@naggum.net> References: <39fac869_1@goliath.newsfeeds.com> <8thaau$mlucm$1@ID-22205.news.dfncis.de> <8theek$1n8$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <8tiaie$n1stm$1@ID-22205.news.dfncis.de> <3181887996642356@naggum.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: oslo-nntp.eunet.no 972939902 22024 195.0.192.66 (30 Oct 2000 21:05:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@eunet.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Oct 2000 21:05:02 GMT mail-copies-to: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.lisp:2935 * Mike McDonald | I'm afraid most US college students don't really go to college for | an education (IMO). That's fine with me. I don't have to care about every college student to be able to reach but a few of them. I leave such caring about everybody to brilliant minds like that of George W. Bush, which has me wondering what the GOP _rejects_ were like. Christ. | Inorder to increase the demand for Lisp, colleges would have to | decide teaching how to think was more important than the relevancy | of teaching the last fad language. Or they could at the very least ensure that those who attend them are not actively discouraged if they happen to want an education. | I don't know how to turn the tide so that critical thinking and | problem solving are valued attributes of members of a work force. I do: Quit thinking that you're _ever_ dealing with masses. If you cannot bring yourself to be satisified that you reach a brain, but have to be disappointed because you can't change a culture, give up before you hurt every brain you could have reached and the culture gets you. | I guess drones are just easier to produce and control. The whole concept of educating lots of _very_ different children at the same pace in an "industrial" setting that forced everybody to be exposed to the same tasks at the same time even though there is very solid evidence that this hurts both the weak and the strong children is a product of the industrial revolution, when factories wanted lots of people who could obey a central authority figure (teacher, floor manager, same shit). Drones are easier to produce in such a system because that is the express purpose, and it has never even _tried_ anything else. That's why the drones must be _ignored_. When the time comes, they will do what those you taught tell them. #:Erik -- Does anyone remember where I parked Air Force One? -- George W. Bush