Subject: Re: the naggum-mine claims another victim
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 11 Dec 2000 03:36:41 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Marcus G. Daniels
| Tolerance for intolerance will not be sustainable in the long run.

  You yourself suffer from such an amazing level of intolerance towards
  me that you should know what you're talking about, but I disagree.  It
  is only in the long run that our ability to deal with other people's
  different opinions and their deep caring for their values _can_ be
  sustainable, but accepting that people do care about different things
  and do _not_ accept that other people trash and denounce their values
  constitues _respect_ for people.  You have the kind of reprehensible
  personality that is capable of disrespecting people, and you are even
  proud of that.

  It is not intolerance, but disrespect for people, that cannot and must
  not be tolerated.  One must at all times maintain extreme intolerance
  towards disrespect for people, life, and property, and that is just
  what the legal systems of the Western civilization are designed to do
  -- the uniformity of these principles across so many cultures should
  be a warning sign to personalities like yours, but you have probably
  never thought about such things.  No criminal mind has the conceptual
  framework to think about what it means to set up systems where due
  procedure and laws have precedence over revenge and hatred -- that is
  what differentiates the criminal mind from the law-abiding citizen who
  understands on an emotional and fairly direct level that justice does
  not entail vendettas against people some insane stalker like you
  simply do not like.  Cultures that thrive on hatred and revenge have
  yet to develop legal systems that protect individual freedom, too, and
  I don't think they will.  Some cultures are just too evil to evolve
  the concepts of freedom and rights.  And you belong to such a culture.

  Society rests on the fundamental premise that even if we do not agree
  on the concrete values, we agree that it is wrong to smear people,
  destroy property, and kill over our differences.  Those who do not
  agree with this, and you do not, Marcus G. Daniels, are a danger to
  any society of law and justice.  You belong in a lawless society where
  it would be perfectly legitimate to kill you for your disrespect, and
  you are a sad and pathetic misfit in a society based on law.  I doubt
  that you can change that part of your personality and therefore your
  disrespect must not be tolerated at _any_ time.  If you keep up the
  apology of your past evil ways and actually manage to stay "clinical
  and unemotional" remains to be seen, of course, but I'm always happy
  to see even the vilest, most reprehensible, most disgusting piece of
  shit turn around and change his behavior in the future.  It does not
  change the past and I do not believe in forgiving, but as long as you
  do not relapse, I have no reason to continue to think of you in the
  ways and terms you deserve for that past.  I do not, however, think
  you have the mental ability to understand that by your own admission,
  you do not extend this _resepct_ towards me, which makes the evil of
  your past unforgivable to those who have a concept of forgiveness.

  In other words, since I believe your mind has serious problems in
  accepting input that does not fir your preconceptions, you can never
  be tolerated for what _you_ do, so just do something else.  Start now.

  "When you are having a bad day and it seems like everybody is trying
   to piss you off, remember that it takes 42 muscles to produce a
   frown, but only 4 muscles to work the trigger of a good sniper rifle."
								-- Unknown