Subject: Re: Macro-writing in CL
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:04:59 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* "Biep @" <>
> Erik, would you please go away?

  No, "Biep @".

  It is mot my fault that you expose your ignorance and your arrogance
  about what you do not understand.  You are one of those who think they
  have nothing more to learn and instead spend your time blaming what you
  have not studied for the fact that you do not understand it properly.

  It has been obvious for quite a while that you are here only to talk, not
  to listen, not to learn, not to appreciate contrary opinions and views.
  I suggest that you retreat to your Scheme world and enjoy yourself
  instead of wasting your time here, being as you are the one to suggest
  that people go away.

  You are making a problem look much harder than it is because you have
  failed to understand it.  It behooves a critic to be well educated.  You
  are not in the topic at hand.  Maybe you are so "educated" in other
  things you actually believe you do not have to know specifics, anymore,
  but then that is the problem in this debate, not the issues at hand.

  Just write the macros that produce the effects you want.  Publish them.
  It is actually that is.  The fact that you can is the strength of the
  Common Lisp macro system.  The fact that you _cannot_ do this in a
  syntactic closures system is a weakness of that system.  The fact that
  you might have to is not a blemish or a weakness of a language that was
  expressly designed to let people build their own tools within it.  If you
  want a language that _enforces_ what you think is right, that language is
  not Common Lisp, and the community you should talk to is not the Common
  Lisp community.

  Travel is a meat thing.