Subject: Re: Promoting CL Was: What I want from my Common Lisp vendor and the Common Lisp community
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 16:09:55 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* John Foderaro <>
> Does the posting of this one message show that I'm trying to start a
> revolution and overthrow the standard?  Did I say anywhere that my plan
> is to force a change in the standard so that today's conforming programs
> no longer work?

  You have very strongly indicated that you want today's common knowledge
  of how to write code in the language to become invalid.  This means that
  people who want to write Common Lisp code will find that they have to
  make up their mind whether they agree with your silly if* stunt _and_
  avoid if/when/unless or want to write standard Common Lisp and be able to
  discuss their code with others who write standard Common Lisp.  This is
  undermining the standing of the standard, so yes, you have shown that you
  are trying to start a revolution and overthrow the standard, starting not
  with programs that no longer work, but with programmers that no longer
  use the standard, and that revolution has apparently already started at
  Franz Inc. from what you are "clarifying" about your disclaimer.  This is
  the wider ramifications to which I have been objecting all along, and you
  are probably the only person in this thread who have failed to understand
  that this is _not_ about your macro or your flaws, but about the much
  wider ramifications of both your insulting language and your actions.