From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!134.222.94.5!npeer.kpnqwest.net!nreader1.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Promoting CL Was: What I want from my Common Lisp vendor and the Common Lisp community References: <3208511830109687@naggum.net> <87r8tow5ej.fsf@orion.bln.pmsf.de> <871ylnx1pw.fsf@orion.bln.pmsf.de> <9n3cnc$c98$0@216.39.145.192> <9n3ib9$ok2$0@216.39.145.192> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3208634224537825@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 23:17:06 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@Norway.EU.net X-Trace: nreader1.kpnqwest.net 999645426 193.71.66.49 (Wed, 05 Sep 2001 01:17:06 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 01:17:06 MET DST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:15634 * Tim Moore > Going beyond my small contribution of years ago, you don't see RMS and > Torvalds thanking their sponsors and employers every time they mention > some part of GNU/Linux. Torvalds works for TransMeta; duh. Neither do they claim that they _donated_ their work to anyone. In fact, funding being what it is, they refer to it as their work, but both RMS and Linus have always been careful not to speak about "donating" it. _I_ would consider saying that I donated something only if I had funded it myself, and since I have in fact funded and donated a lot of stuff over the years, to university computer clubs, to the SGML community, etc, but I did not use "donate" when in fact somebody else donated money to fund my work. I expect the same standard of honesty from others when referring to what one gives away. If it is not yours to donate, it is a bad idea to say that you did. This applies to the funding, not the work. ///