Subject: Re: flame wars, humor and serious request /was Re: Effective approaches
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 23:11:16 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Erann Gat
> > His behavior is not at all my fault.
> No, you're wrong about that.  The reason I attacked you (and I freely
> admit that's exactly what I did) is because you advocate it.

  Now let us see what happens if I advocate that you go shoot yourself.
  Will you do that, too?

> I found your attack on John Foderaro unacceptable so I dealt with it in
> the manner you prescribe, by denouncing you.

  No, you did not.  You simply do _not_ copy me.  You may copy my words and
  actually _believe_ that you mean what I would mean, but you do not.  Your
  evil deeds are not mine, they your very own responsibility.  Accept it.

> But I'm not defending John, I'm defending John's right to free speech,
> and again here I am simply following your example.

  Free speech is not under attack, you imbecile.  And you are not following
  any examples.  You originate your own behavior.  There is nobody you can
  blame for what you do.  There is nobody else who can get tainted by your
  behavior, however much you want to make somebody else look bad because
  _you_ are an evil piece of shit our solely to destroy other people.  We
  have seen you in action on this newsgroup before.  It is evident that you
  have no constructive objectives in mind at all in these exchanges.  That
  is the part you cannot copy, because of our personality differences.

> So I followed your example and dealt with it by attacking you.

  No, you fail to follow any example at all.  You are originating your own
  behavior and copy nobody.  Take responsibility for what you do yourself,
  and just quit the moronic games you play.  People take notice not of what
  examples you think you copy, but what _you_ actually do.  Trying to shift
  the blame like that is what the criminally insane do.

> Look where it's gotten us.

  Look where it has gotten _you_.  If you want to be remembered as a
  psychopath, keep going the way you do.  Your first step to change this
  impression is that you take responsibility for your own actions always,
  blame nobody and attempt to smear nobody because you are piece of shit.

  I actually think you _are_ evil and insane, Erann Gat.  Insane people
  have very slim chances of affecting other people.  Destructive people
  like yourself have very little chance of doing anything constructive.
  And, _please_ get over the fact that you lose the games you play when you
  want to make anybody else look bad.  You succeed _only_ with yourself.