From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!134.222.94.5!npeer.kpnqwest.net!nreader2.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Where's your Lisp software, Janos Blazi? References: <3b97d110_1@news.newsgroups.com> <87elpjn19q.fsf@nkapi.internal> <9nbb15$51s$0@216.39.145.192> <3208894128011321@naggum.net> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3208897570650919@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 00:26:11 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@Norway.EU.net X-Trace: nreader2.kpnqwest.net 999908771 193.90.205.95 (Sat, 08 Sep 2001 02:26:11 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 02:26:11 MET DST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:15904 * tfb@apocalypse.OCF.Berkeley.EDU (Thomas F. Burdick) > For those of us interested in lowdown, systems-level stuff, it's > important to have Free Software systems, because I'm not about to > implement an entire CL system just to add multiprocessing to it (though I > might like to for other reasons, if I had the time...) I think you should work with the vendors on this. It is pretty amazing what you can do and get done if you are willing to _talk_ to people who own the rights to things. By and large, just because someone does not give _everybody_ source access does not mean they give nobody source access and let them play with their system. I find it disheartening to see that so many people confuse so many of the issues in source access, redistribution, educational values, etc. There are tradeoffs here that are not necessarily optimal in only one of the available options. ///