Subject: Re: 3 Lisps, 3 Ways of Specifying OS
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:23:53 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* John Foderaro
| The built-in lag that results in getting updates through a distribution
| company like RedHat means that its users would never see kernel 2.4.11.

  Debian's very responsible package maintainers have kept buggy kernel
  versions and buggy versions of packages alike from hitting their users
  consistently for years, quite _unlike_ RedHat.  For the same reason, the
  2.4.11 kernel was not packaged up for Debian users even in the "testing"
  distribution.  Those who want to track the kernel development know what
  the are doing.  I would think everyone else _avoids_ upgrading their
  kernels until some trusted source says it is OK.  My trusted source is
  the Debian project.  And I do not trust RedHat at all -- doing so has
  cost me too much real money and real time in the past.  But we also know
  that _trust_ means very different things to different people.

  If you want release lags, nothing beats Debian there, either.  :)

  The United Nations before and after the leadership of Kofi Annan are two
  very different organizations.  The "before" United Nations did not deserve
  much credit and certainly not a Nobel peace prize.  The "after" United
  Nations equally certainly does.  I applaud the Nobel committee's choice.