Subject: Re: Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Encyclopedia From: Erik Naggum <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:40:24 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> * Kenny Tilton <email@example.com> | In other words, the fundamental misconceptualization which must underly a | hard-to-learn language will also be manifested in one's ability to live | with it even if mastered. Hm. Can the ideas behind C++ be re-expressed sanely? There should be a lot of really good ideas and good material in that language, but I tend to believe that the sheer pain of expressing oneself in it creates a "creative climate" that produces really weird results. It is very much like the SGML/XML crowd, who also do amazingly stupid things because of the sheer painfulness of working with their misconceptualization of their core problems and solutions. /// -- Norway is now run by a priest from the fundamentalist Christian People's Party, the fifth largest party representing one eighth of the electorate. -- Carrying a Swiss Army pocket knife in Oslo, Norway, is a criminal offense.