From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!newsfeed.esat.net!nslave.kpnqwest.net!nloc.kpnqwest.net!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!nreader2.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Encyclopedia References: <3213041760976232@naggum.net> <9rmiep$gm2$1@news3.cadvision.com> <3BDF001C.43133DA7@nyc.rr.com> <6yDD7.26$hi1.455@burlma1-snr2> <3d3ycvl2.fsf@itasoftware.com> <3BE18041.4030304@nyc.rr.com> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3213625223025050@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:40:24 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@Norway.EU.net X-Trace: nreader2.kpnqwest.net 1004636424 193.71.66.49 (Thu, 01 Nov 2001 18:40:24 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 18:40:24 MET Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:19015 * Kenny Tilton | In other words, the fundamental misconceptualization which must underly a | hard-to-learn language will also be manifested in one's ability to live | with it even if mastered. Hm. Can the ideas behind C++ be re-expressed sanely? There should be a lot of really good ideas and good material in that language, but I tend to believe that the sheer pain of expressing oneself in it creates a "creative climate" that produces really weird results. It is very much like the SGML/XML crowd, who also do amazingly stupid things because of the sheer painfulness of working with their misconceptualization of their core problems and solutions. /// -- Norway is now run by a priest from the fundamentalist Christian People's Party, the fifth largest party representing one eighth of the electorate. -- Carrying a Swiss Army pocket knife in Oslo, Norway, is a criminal offense.