From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!141.201.2.63!newshunter!cosy.sbg.ac.at!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!newsfeed.kpnqwest.at!nslave.kpnqwest.net!nloc2.kpnqwest.net!nloc.kpnqwest.net!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!nreader1.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Lisp Jobs (was Re: Slashdot) References: <9sf8s5$a64$1@news3.cadvision.com> <9sh9rp$50f@news.uni.edu> <3BEC7930.7DDEE070@sandia.gov> <86g07m3ytr.fsf@gondolin.local.net> <3BEE0DC5.D69A38F7@nyc.rr.com> <5d9tut8kvj1dh20sneriuobe6dfrf0a8jd@4ax.com> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3214500027910095@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:40:29 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@Norway.EU.net X-Trace: nreader1.kpnqwest.net 1005511229 193.71.66.49 (Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:40:29 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:40:29 MET Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:19602 * Andrzej Lewandowski | Technical decision in the industry are not based on "trust" or personal | opinions of this-or-that developer. Developers don't decide about | programming languages unless this is single person, basement-type | operation. I can only pity you for your lack of experience, but these things happen quite frequently. It probably does not apply in the Java, C++, VB, etc, world, where trust in the developer is a non-issue, where the personal value of the individual programmer seems to be irrelevant at best, and where the ability to replace such a programmer is valued much higher than making sure that programmer contributes to the company's bottom line. However, this extremely sorry situation is _not_ representative of the whole world, despite the fact that those who live under such conditions would leave the second they learned freedom was available to them, too, and thus nobody in that world will believe it is possible to be trusted, to have their opinions heard, to be both designer and programmer, etc. Of course, I am only slightly exaggerating, but those who think their personal experiences up to some point make it unnecessary to ever open their eyes again and thus declare everything contrary to their personal experience invalid at best or a lie at worst, have already given up the most important value of being conscious: The world you experience is not what you expect it to be, if you look closely enough, and that looking at it with open eyes all the time is the only working way to deal with it. /// -- Norway is now run by a priest from the fundamentalist Christian People's Party, the fifth largest party representing one eighth of the electorate. -- Carrying a Swiss Army pocket knife in Oslo, Norway, is a criminal offense.