Subject: Re: On nil qua false [was: Re: On conditionals] From: Erik Naggum <erik@naggum.net> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 04:25:21 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <3215910318983115@naggum.net> * Andreas Bogk | Can anybody explain to me why some people regard the Common Lisp standard | as gospel? * Erik Naggum > Well, why do you regard it as gospel? Why do _you_ think in such terms? * Andreas Bogk | I don't. I suggested that you do, based on your "it is the way it is, | get over with it" argument. I repeat: Why do you think in such terms? Your suggestion is nothing but a way to tell the world that you conceptualize in terms of "gospel" and other religious terms. _Why_ do you do this? What purpose does such a conceptualization serve? What kind of short-circuiting of your thinking processes are you satisfied with once you can label someone "religious"? I am interested in _why_ you have this conceptualization. If you do not even recognize that in order to accuse somebody else of something when lacking evidence of it _from_ those you accuse, i.e., you must recognize that the "pattern" you see is your own mental creation, you have to think in the terms you accuse them of, please let me know that you do not even consider _yourself_ worth listening to, and I shall comply with that. There are a few things that are never true of "me", only of "you", in the words and opinions and thinking patterns of some people. Those who make that mistake, provide the world with evidence that they cannot consider what it would mean for someone for their accusations to be true, hence they are worthless nonsense published only to pester and annoy people, because they, too, _know_ that it is untrue. /// -- The past is not more important than the future, despite what your culture has taught you. Your future observations, conclusions, and beliefs are more important to you than those in your past ever will be. The world is changing so fast the balance between the past and the future has shifted.