From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news2.kpn.net!news.kpn.net!nslave.kpnqwest.net!nloc.kpnqwest.net!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!nreader1.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: On nil qua false [was: Re: On conditionals] References: <3215299538573186@naggum.net> <9tgcpc$3ce$1@news.gte.com> <3215360195434986@naggum.net> <3BFC2BC7.BDD2CEF0@nyc.rr.com> <3BFC3F7F.E31CBAF0@nyc.rr.com> <3BFC6AB7.4B7B99B9@nyc.rr.com> <3BFC92C8.FE1BCD84@nyc.rr.com> <87itbwf0yf.fsf@teonanacatl.andreas.org> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3215921991944430@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:39:54 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@KPNQwest.no X-Trace: nreader1.kpnqwest.net 1006933194 193.71.66.49 (Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:39:54 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:39:54 MET Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:21168 * Andreas Bogk | I'd dispute that. Re-analyzing the the Axiom of Parallels in geometry | resulted in the development of non-Euclidean geometry, which was a | tremendous success. Did anything happen to Euclidean geometry because of this re-evaluation? Or did the development of non-Euclidean geometries prove useful in ways that did not impact the remainder of Euclid's The Elements _at_all_? Was it not one of the amazingly interesting features of non-Euclidean geometry that it did _not_ contradict or have a stupid quarrel with the rest of his work? So why are you still here when you should be in comp.lang.dylan extolling the features of non- Lisps? Who do you think cares? Invite Lisp people to your own very low-traffic forum to discuss this with you, rather than annoy people with your repetitive nonsense, OK? Or are you, as I now strongly suspect, only posting in comp.lang.lisp because you think Lisp people should be "converted" to Dylan because nobody else are? By the way, what you call "axiom" is called "postulate" in Euclid because of the distinction that Aristotle drew between the two concepts. But I suppose you do not recognize Euclid's The Elements as authoritative on what Euclid said, either. "It is so because Euclid said so" seems to be an invalid argument to you, but I am afraid that I have no "logical" answer that I expect will sate your desire for pathological nonsense. /// -- The past is not more important than the future, despite what your culture has taught you. Your future observations, conclusions, and beliefs are more important to you than those in your past ever will be. The world is changing so fast the balance between the past and the future has shifted.