Subject: Re: On nil qua false [was: Re: On conditionals]
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:53:49 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Ray Blaak
| So who are you? Judge, jury and jailer?

  It is a metaphor, intended to show a particular attitude that has an
  exact parallel in the real world.  Grow a clue, now.

| Andreas's real crime here seems to be 1) that he is into Dylan, 2) thinks
| it's in the Lisp family, and 3) has the audacity to criticize your
| favourite language.

  Nonsense.  He speaks of what he does not know.  He also criticizes with
  no intention of resolving anything.  Common Lisp is not being designed at
  this time, and these things are so fundamental that there is no way his
  criticism can possibly stop, because they are not going to change.  There
  is no way this person is going to cease his complaints, because he will
  never be satisfied.  Why do you defend such people and activities?

| Where *else* can he discuss Lisp's shortcomings in a meaningful manner?
| The people who can most intelligently correct the error of his ways hang
| out here.

  No, the error of his ways is that he thinks that a newcomer to town
  should be _respected_ for disagreeing with the prevailing customs for no
  better reason than that they are different where he came from.  This is
  fantastically stupid in real life, too, and has a name: "an obnoxious
  tourist".  There is no confusion or error that anybody else can fix.

  The past is not more important than the future, despite what your culture
  has taught you.  Your future observations, conclusions, and beliefs are
  more important to you than those in your past ever will be.  The world is
  changing so fast the balance between the past and the future has shifted.