Subject: Re: Time for a Fresh Scheme Standard: Say Goodbye to the RnRS Relic
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:01:15 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Erik Naggum
> Have you thought about how _necessary_ it is for you Scheme freaks to be
> hostile to those who do not agree with you?  E.g., where _did_ the stupid
> need to attack Common Lisp now come from?  So immature and vindictive!

* MJ Ray
| Sorry Erik.  I attacked you, not Common Lisp.  Or are you Common Lisp
| itself?

  Could you explain what "oxymoronically-named "Common" Lisp?" is if not an
  attack?  Do you think your immature and vindictive "opinions" do _not_
  constitute an attack?  If so, I understand better what you mean by "warm
  and welcoming".

  And just _why_ do you attack me?  You are just warm and welcoming, right?

| Maybe you wish to make general Lisp fora "pure" and filled only with your
| One True Lisp?

  No, that would be the Scheme way of dealing with diversity of opinion, as
  we have seen from you guys already.  This is one of the really important
  differences between Common Lisp and Scheme.  It is not suprising that you
  do not know this, considering your "warm and welcoming" behavior.

  By the way, you are probably right.  The Scheme community is certainly
  more "warm and welcoming" than the Common Lisp community."

| I've snipped the rest of your content-free post.

  So you lack the courage to deal with all forms of counter-information.

  The past is not more important than the future, despite what your culture
  has taught you.  Your future observations, conclusions, and beliefs are
  more important to you than those in your past ever will be.  The world is
  changing so fast the balance between the past and the future has shifted.