Subject: Re: looking for a language with any of the following 4 charachteristics (all 4 would be nice). From: Erik Naggum <email@example.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 19:46:59 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> * Erann Gat | And we can trust you to find unreasonable interpretations of anything I say. You have no basis for this stupid retort. | 1. Despite the fact that Lisp had many more major language features much | earlier than most other languages, it isn't perfect, and should continue | to evolve if it is to keep its competitive edge. An instance of the bleeding obvious with which nobody disagrees. | 2. That conclusions ought to be drawn from evidence and not from | arguments-from-authority. An instance of the bleeding obvious with which nobody disagrees. | 3. That you aren't always right about everything, and that assuming you | are, while it may be a good heuristic for staying out of trouble, is not | 100% effective at arriving at the truth. An instance of the bleeding obvious with which nobody disagrees. You clearly did not read the article you responded to when you found yet another moronic reason to hurl yet another moronic accusation my way. I suggest you actually read it, now, lest you repeat something that has already been strongly refuted and falsified. | Sure you are. But if you are allowed to do these things, then so am I. | I have never said you are not *allowed* to do these things. My position | has always been simply that you would be more effective if you didn't. Yes, towards you and in your view, which I am obligated to disregard because you are clearly nuts and unable to provide a balanced view or even information. | We'd both have more time for technical contributions if we weren't | fighting with each other all the time. I'm ready to call this off any | time you are. Coward. I am not ready to call this off, as I think you are truly evil and as long as you keep posting your purely destructive bullshit about me, about Common Lisp, about other respected Lispers, you _will_ receive harsh replies. You can stop fighting unilaterally. Unlike you, I do not attack people who do not post anything bad. I do _not_ make the first move. That is your peculiar modus operandi, and one for which you should learn to accept full responsibility. One way to do that is to accept the _humiliation_ you will feel if you quit posting your usual crap about and to me. You will feel soundly defeated in your own view, but it is only in your view, because you are completely nuts and so enraged at the moment that you think that you will "lose face" if you do not respond. If you feel this way, as I suspect, it is all the more important that you actually stop fighting unilaterally. Also, please realize this, because you are so hard of learning and have such an investment in vilifying me far beyond anything reasonable, I am not responding to your extremely disgusting behavior, but your abuse of this forum with your incessant loads of crap, disinformation, confusion, and general ill will. Just stop, return to whatever cave your ilk comes from, and things will return to normal. Keep filling up this forum with your special kind of putrid disinformation, and you _must_ be fought, not just by me, but by anyone who wants comp.lang.lisp to be about Lisp, to foster an environment and a community where professional Lispers and those who want to become professional Lispers can find both personal and professional needs fulfilled. You do neither, and it is your choice. There is nobody you can blame for your behavior. Accept this and shut up. And if you are so goddamn happy about Python, go kick up some dirt in comp.lang.python, instead of making life so miserable for those who are quite happy with Lisp and who are working tirelessly to make the world of Lisp so much more enjoyable. You are hurting the community and the ability of people to feel good about what they do. In this forum, you are en evil influence. Whatever happened to your stupid "faith" in Lisp, it is no longer our concern when you turn into a destructive bastard who blames other people for your lack of self-control. Show us that you are a man, and just quit. /// -- In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none. In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.