Subject: Re: Char ordering. From: Erik Naggum <email@example.com> Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 17:17:32 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> * Jacek Generowicz | > | Having said that, the fact that the approach _is_ error-prone is | > | demonstrated by the line of lowercase chars in your code. | > | > I have added you to my do-not-help list. | | I am sorry to hear that. | | I doubt that adding yet-another-wretched-smiley, as I had been | tempted to do, would have avoided this. Probably not. You came here to receive help, and respond by ridiculing those who help you. This is _remarkably_ stupid of you. | Your sensitivities, in particular, I find extremely difficult to gauge. How do you react when people sneer at you when you give them a gift you think would be valuable to them, but which might have a very minor flaw that you could easily fix yourself? I help people I think deserve it. I give you freely of my extensive experience and skills -- I have probably worked longer with computers than you have lived, and offer you time-saving advice so you can be relieved of having to go through all the same problems to arrive at some good practice. I consider it my prerogative to refuse to help people who are so dumb that they do not realize that they came to a public forum of people far better skilled than themselves and ask them to save you potentially a lot of time. You do _not_ just ask other newbies who are are as clueless as yourself, as in the usual horizontal communication that young people tend to think is all there is to communication, but vertical communication to what you should treat as masters and teachers, at least as long as you ask them to help you. If you keep treating those who help you as if they were at your own level, anybody who have a clue will simply ignore your pleas for help. I am impolite enough to tell you, others just do what I have done and do not even tell you. What you react to is probably that I care enough to tell you. Think about this. You might take some note of the fact that several other people reacted pretty harshly to your snotty-young-punk remark about the "error-prone- ness" that you immediately spotted, anyway, so it could not have been _that_ hard to detect, now, could it? Another item you should realize causes friction is when you ignore the value of the "Mail-Copies-To: never" header. I started to respond to your mailed copy, which I expressly do _not_ want, when I noticed the news article. When you send someone mail, at least identify it as a mailed copy. As you grow more experienced in using USENET, you also mark your personal communcation as such when you respond to someone's news article by mail. This is actually necessary because private and public communication are very, very different. /// -- In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none. In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.