Subject: Re: Negation
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 05:23:57 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Thomas Bushnell, BSG
| However, the thread started in the absence of any such "propaganda".
| The propaganda is, as far as I can tell, a fantasy; it's just not
| here.

  The thread started when you joked about set! and I joked back with a
  point about the difference between the Scheme and Common Lisp
  communities, and joking called Common Lisp a real Lisp and Scheme a toy
  Lisp, which caused you to blow your fuse and revert to a 5-year-old
  kicking and screaming, inventing stuff you could attack other people for
  because what they did in fact say could not keep your anger and your
  stupid self-rightesous flaming going.

| Who are these people?  I haven't seen *anyone* denounce Common Lisp here.
| I'm told that Tom Lord used to, but he doesn't seem to be around here at
| present.

  Your observational skills are so questionable that whether you have seen
  anyone do anything is completely irrelevant.  You cannot even _report_
  what other people say without confusing it with your own opinion and you
  do not even read articles that disagree with your one-bit universe.

  But why are you trying to force people to accept your view?  Is not that
  precisely what you attack me for, even though I do no such thing?  You
  seem to want to control other people's impressions of what constitues
  Scheme propaganda and now what it means to denounce Common Lisp such that
  people have to fight through your obstinate refusal to listen to what
  people say.  This is the very definition of a troll.

| I don't; I haven't posted *any* "Scheme propaganda".

  Maybe it looks like it, like you think what I say looks like something I
  do not recognize at all?  Maybe you are nuts and your ability to predict
  what people mean and infer is somehow out of sync?  Maybe you are out of
  control and so emotionally disturbed by what you perceive as hostilities
  and personal attacks that you are no longer able to communicate at all?

  To quote Tom Lehrer: "I wish people who have trouble communicating would
  just shut up."

  In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none.
  In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.