Subject: Re: Packages From: Erik Naggum <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:48:13 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <email@example.com> * "Joe Marshall" | I want to refer to a symbol that I *know* will exist a short time in the | future. I have no intention of using or manipulating the symbol until it | exists and the package system is set up, I just want to refer to the | name. Even so, I'm out of luck. I can sympathize with this problem, as you have described it, but I wonder if you have ever tried to dump a new image with the packages loaded. That has been how I have done things for the longest time. I even tend to build my own Emacs that way. It not only saves a lot of time in the startup phase and avoids loading a lot of files every time, but building and dumping a new image would of course be done from scratch, without an init file. The dumped image already has all the packages loaded so now your init file loads without problems. /// -- In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none. In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.