From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!195.158.233.21!news.ebone.net!news1.ebone.net!194.177.33.107.MISMATCH!hamster.europeonline.net!newsfeed.europeonline.net!nslave.kpnqwest.net!nloc2.kpnqwest.net!nloc.kpnqwest.net!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!nreader1.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Questions about Symbolics lisp machines References: <3C9A12FC.8EC6D8CA@smi.de> <86pu1sfac8.fsf@kirk.localdomain> <87bsdctb3p.fsf@becket.becket.net> <3226103902356257@naggum.net> <878z8gufhz.fsf@becket.becket.net> <873cyncgz7.fsf@becket.becket.net> <874rj3jee4.fsf@becket.becket.net> <877knz2i4w.fsf@darkstar.cartan> <877knzhwur.fsf@becket.becket.net> <87y9gf11k7.fsf@darkstar.cartan> <87u1r3ghgw.fsf@becket.becket.net> <87pu1r10a7.fsf@darkstar.cartan> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3226232917260862@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:48:22 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@KPNQwest.no X-Trace: nreader1.kpnqwest.net 1017244102 193.71.199.50 (Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:48:22 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:48:22 MET Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:30324 * Nils Goesche | But they don't have to, and so it has no value. This is a trivial | question of definitions, and not saying anything /against/ Emacs. If you | pay for a CDROM with GNU Emacs on it, you are actually paying for the | CDROM, not Emacs itself, BTW. Emacs is great, but it has no value, | /precisely/ because it is available for free everywhere. I am not sure I agree with this. Using Emacs requires time and effort to learn which could have been used for something else, and the threat of losing the ability to use Emacs causes people to do many weird things. /// -- In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none. In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.