Subject: Re: Questions about Symbolics lisp machines From: Erik Naggum <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:27:26 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> * Bulent Murtezaoglu | I don't understand why you would be disgusted. Perhaps I explained only enough for me to understand what I was talking about. I had asked company x for funding for my FTP site, which took time and money to maintain on my part, and I had grown tired of doing this for free when several commercial interests were asking me to make their stuff available. None of them valued my central site higher than doing their own thing, apparently, and that is certainly their choice, but my reaction was a marked reduction in my willingness to spend more time, energy, or money on this. So when one company that had declined to provide funding asked me not only to continue to keep my site up to date with their software, but also to work for free to provide them with logs and retrieval statistics, which I had hitherto not done for anyone, not even for my own use, what disgusted me was not that the users left their e-mail addresses with me in good faith and I was asked to surrender them, it was that this company wanted me to do such work for them for free after they had declined to fund the site. /// -- In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none. In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.