From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!newsfeed.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.brutele.be!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!nreader1.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: cost, value, price References: <87pu1rgh5n.fsf@becket.becket.net> <87lmcf0zmh.fsf@darkstar.cartan> <3226239808766909@naggum.net> <3226284579776773@naggum.net> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3226308834027937@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:53:39 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@KPNQwest.no X-Trace: nreader1.kpnqwest.net 1017320019 193.71.199.50 (Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:53:39 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:53:39 MET Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:30414 * Brian Spilsbury | Selling your labour necessarily involves it being directed by that which | you have sold it to, which is why contracts which restrict the ends to | which your labour can be put are important. Then it is not your labor that is salabale, it is your ability to follow orders. Thus your personal freedom and your time is for sale, and with them your labor, but labor alone is evidently not sufficent. But more than that, your ability to agree with the goals of your employer and work towards these same goals without necessarily taking orders all the time, i.e., loyalty, is what is _really_ valued. To call all this just "labor" seems to me a severe conflation of the personal qualities involved. /// -- In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none. In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.