Subject: Re: "Choose the Right Language" in "Tutorial" by Norvig and Pitman
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 12:15:15 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Erik Naggum
> Huh?  Are you sure you understand the relational model...

* Kenny Tilton
| Gee, imagine how much better I could have done if I had Understood the
| Relational Model!!!!!!!

  Sounds like you are not at all sure and have very little clue, too.

| I am so glad I did not know that before successfully building an
| RDB-based system!!  I might not have been able to do it if I had known
| how unqualified I was!!!!!  All I ever really had down cold was third
| abnormal form.

  Dude, what are you smoking?  There is not a _single_ field in computer
  science that is less understood by its practitioners than databases.
  When you imply that being able to use a tool is equivalent to grasping
  the theory, you position yourself with the drooling idiots who design
  broken databases or things that work by accident.  And telling me a story
  about something you have done in some sort of retarded self-defense only
  tells me that you have no clue what the question is, either.  Who cares
  what you _say_ you have done when you provide contraindications to having
  clues elsewhere?

| Overall, I agree we should mysticize good system design as much as
| possible with FUD about abstract models and calculus so as to maximize
| our God-like positioning and discourage mere mortals from thinking they
| can get by with clear thinking. If they ever find out clear thinking
| suffices to produce solid design, us mumbo-jumbos will be on the beach.

  So you have no understanding of the theory at all.  Glad to know.

  Stop defending yourself by attempting to ridicule someone who has good
  reason to think you are clueless.  Just provide evidence that you have
  clues.  This should not be hard if you have any.  In fact, if you had any
  clues, you would have found it much more productive to provide evidence
  thereof than to post the bullshit you just did.  Thanks for playing.

  In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none.
  In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.

  Post with compassion: