From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!195.238.2.15!skynet.be!skynet.be!ossa.telenet-ops.be!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!nreader3.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: "Choose the Right Language" in "Tutorial" by Norvig and Pitman References: <874rii2xc8.fsf@blitz.comp.com> <87zo0a6pjq.fsf@lackawana.kippona.com> <3CB88F7A.93EC13DC@nyc.rr.com> <3CBBCA7A.BCA63724@nyc.rr.com> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3227966258798820@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 55 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:17:39 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@KPNQwest.no X-Trace: nreader3.kpnqwest.net 1018977459 193.71.199.50 (Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:17:39 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:17:39 MET DST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:31840 * Todd Gillespie > Of course, 'XML' is now an umbrella term for a dizzying array of > ever-bifurcating standards and proposals * Kenny Tilton | oh shit, don't tell me there is a new technology which might be going | thru some polishing!!! run way! run away!!!...the difference between an | adventure and a disaster is the attitude you take into it Would you mind trying to act a bit more intelligent? | chya. so you have RDB code at great expense creating the /illusion/ of | "add the offset". This is a terribly intellectually dishonest assertion. | apologize to c.l.l. imediately. (doing my best erik imitation.) Try imitating something within your reach, first, like a dog. | uh, aside from the fact that you are wrong, the hardware folks are upping | their performance so fast that not even Moore's law can keep up. Are you sure you have figured out what Moore's law says? | How /you/ doin'? Less slang, more intelligibility, please. | based on what I have heard, RDb is an excuse for two ignorances: | | (1) I do not know what language to use. (answer: duhhhhhhh, lisp!!!) | | (2) I do not know what index I will want tomorrow at 3PM (answer: don't | quit your day job.) So you _have_ no clue. I hate it when people confirm my suspicions. People who think object-orientation is so great, have generally failed to grasp the value of data-driven designs despite the serious attempt at making such design easier to model, and think solely in terms of code- driven designs where their class hierarchies are poor adaptations to their incompetent coding styles. This is extremely depressing, as the interminable "software crisis" is a result of code-driven design. SGML and XML were attempts at promoting data-driven design that would produce data that was _supposedly_ indepedent of any application. The result is that people who have so little clue they should have attracted one simply by the sucking power of vacuum do code-driven designs in XML, which is _really_ retarded, and then they need to store their moronically designed data in databases, which is, of course, too hard given their braindamaged designs, so the relational model does not "work" for them. /// -- In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none. In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief. Post with compassion: http://home.chello.no/~xyzzy/kitten.jpg