Subject: Re: The Common Lisp Way (was: Re: Your introduction to Lisp...)
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 01:53:11 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Erann Gat
| I would much prefer to drop this whole thing and go back to talking about
| whether using symbols instead of keywords is a good idea or not, but you
| refuse to do that too.

  SO JUST DO IT!  What is hell _wrong_ with you, man?  You cannot even do
  what you "would much prefer" if somebody else manages to derail you, and
  more than that: you seem to seek _excuses_ to get derailed to begin with.


  But the _reason_ you do not do this is that you are lying about what you
  would much prefer.  You say that only to blame me for your own problems.

  I do not wish to engage you in debate, Erann Gat, because you are clearly
  clinically insane.  I only want you to stop obsessing about me, which
  includes, but is not limited to, your talking about me, attacking me,
  harrassing me, and making me and my person more important than anything
  you could possibly have done in a public forum by virtue of switching to
  discuss me at every goddamn opportunity..  That you cease and desist is
  evidently too much to ask, but I still want to make it clear to you that
  you have a choice.  If you just shut the fuck up about me, I shall in turn
  endeavor ro refrain from commenting on your idiotic drivel and flamebait
  in any other context, but you, like everybody else in any public forum,
  have a moral obligation to be intelligent and I cannot guarantee that you
  will be free to spout any dis- or misinformation you want.  Your ability
  to accept criticism of any kind without taking it personally is _absent_,
  but this does not mean that you will be free to continue to lie or give
  false testimony or misrepresent other people.  I shall endeavor to wait
  for others to correct your numerous blunders and misunderstandings, but
  if none point them out in a timely fashion, I shall have to correct them
  even though I fully expect you go to bananas when I do, no matter how I
  phrase or present the criticism or "disagreeing" position.  Your ability
  to take part in any intellectually relevant discussion seems to have been
  extinguished by forces unknown, having been replaced by an uncanny taste
  for drivel and pointless, antagonistic quibbling and other trolling, but
  while massively annoying to any reader of this forum with a real interest
  in any (real) Lisp, those who seek real information will not be hampered
  in their search as long as you avoid outright dis- and misinformation.

| Instead you waste everyone's time by offering me psychological advice.

  Yes, I am sure it wasted on you.  But you _seriously_ need it.  The fact
  that you cannot even do what you claim you "would much prefer" to do when
  this is all up to you -- it really is -- is a _very_ clear indication of
  mental problems.  In general, blaming others for one's own behavior is a
  solid indication that the person in question is permanently out to lunch.

| Just stop it and get back to Lisp.  And if you can't do that, then take
| your own advice and just ignore me.

  *laugh*  What was that about taking your own advice?  Geez, you who are
  so _unintelligent_ that you "*ROTLFMAO*" when you cannot figure out that
  I told you to shut up about one thing and actually discuss what you
  wanted to discuss at the same time, you are actually such a monstrously
  retarded fool that you manage to write those two sentences in a row.

  "Look what he made me do!" does not really work in the real world, Erann.

| After all, according to you I'm just an annoying idiot.  Why don't you do
| everyone a favor and killfile me?

  Because you spend so much of your time lying about me and attacking me in
  unrelated articles and threads.  When I do try to respond to some feeble-
  minded and confused technical points you try to make, you go _ballistic_
  and start lying about me to other people.  It is so obvious that you are
  clinically insane that all I can hope for is that somebody who is still
  close to you may actually make the effort to talk you out of this.

  Please seek help, Erann.  Talk to someone who you _would_ listen to.  Get
  help to get out of the rut you have driven yourself into.

  The only positive effect of all this is that I get a better understanding
  of the Middle East conflicts and why those whole nations of nutjobs have
  to continue the way they have for hundreds if not thousands of years.  It
  would be a goddamn _miracle_ if you could stop your stupid hostilities in
  less than 500 years, but there is always hope that you can grow a clue.

  In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none.
  In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.

  Post with compassion: