Subject: Re: "Choose the Right Language" in "Tutorial" by Norvig and Pitman
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:02:56 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Marc Battyani
| What internal representation do you use with this?

  Whatever the application needs.  This is much easier to parse into the
  braindamaged excuses for internal representation that XML needs than XML.
  If the application is sufficiently ill-designed, I stuff a filter between
  the sensible syntax and the application which produces the XML it likes.
  As for processing with Common Lisp, I simply uses trees built from cons
  cells, but contained in an XML object that causes a different printer to
  be used than the regular Common Lisp printer, and which may convert the
  internal form to something more suitable when needed.  I try to avoid the
  _immensely_ braindamaged DOM crap.

* Erik Naggum
> I just wait to see a Word-in-XML document that takes a minute to ship
> over megabit-lines and which says "Hello, world!".

* Marc Battyani
| FYI an "hello world!" in HTML from Word is 1798 bytes...

  I hope someone else got the point that "Hello, world!" programs are used
  to compare programming languages for size, including their binaries, and
  that it is sort of the smallest idiotic program anyone writes in order to
  acquire completely useless metrics.  In other words: a joke.

  In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none.
  In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.

  Post with compassion: