Subject: Re: lisp as a mutiple team programming language?
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 02:07:50 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
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* Bruce Hoult
| I had absolutely no idea that this was the case until I visited the US on
| a short term contract in 1998.  To my great shock I found that the
| average programmer in at least that firm was ... incredibly average.  And
| everyone was so specialised and compartmentalised.  Of course there were
| *some* very good people there, but not many.  And most of the best were
| foreigners -- either asian or Russian.

  Has you or anybody else read anything by Edward Yourdon?  Back in 1993 or
  so, I got a copy of his book «Decline & Fall of the American Programmer»,
  but I found the little I read misguided and boring, so never completed
  it.  Much has happened in the decade since this book was published.
  <surf Amazon>  In 1996, he published «Rise & Resurrection of the American
  Programmer» and seems to have reversed many of his predictions.  In any
  case, he appeared to be ardent adherent of the kind of assembly-line
  programming that India in particular was famous for at that time.  If any
  of his writing is still relevant, it would be insteresting to hear what
  people here think of his ideas.

  In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none.
  In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.

  Post with compassion: