From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.uchicago.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.stueberl.de!news.netway.at!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!nnum.kpnqwest.net!EU.net!nreader2.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: PART ONE: Lisp & Education: Re: Norvig's latest paper on Lisp References: <3D0F1427.21EEAD12@smi.de> <3D1034B0.5080305@objectent.com> <3D105E31.D72E363A@smi.de> <87wusuy7vn.fsf@cs.uga.edu> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3233586068172510@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:21:08 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@KPNQwest.no X-Trace: nreader2.kpnqwest.net 1024597268 193.71.199.50 (Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:21:08 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:21:08 MET DST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:35263 * James A. Crippen | I thought about getting the official ANSI spec, and bought it in electronic | form (which of course gives you every right to print it, so I wouldn't feel | bad). It turned out to be the shittiest 150 dpi scan I'd seen, even worse | than the old MIT AI Lab memos, and even worse than what the USPTO puts out | for old patents. A waste of my money. Indeed. A rip-off. Especially since they have the postscript files. | The other option is to update the TeX sources to the draft version of the | ANSI spec and put it out. But I'm not sure about the copyright on it... | Whether redistributing a modified form would be legal... As far as I can tell, the standard was printed from them. | The only complaint people really have about the LOOP macro is that even | though what you had was as ugly as sin in Java, what you end up with in Lisp | is *still* ugly. And I would _really_ like to see fewer aesthetic judgments sold as facts. -- Guide to non-spammers: If you want to send me a business proposal, please be specific and do not put "business proposal" in the Subject header. If it is urgent, do not use the word "urgent". If you need an immediate answer, give me a reason, do not shout "for your immediate attention". Thank you.