Subject: Re: Useless tirade  (Was: PART TWO: winning industrial-use of lisp)
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:58:50 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Barry Fishman
| I can understand that you should not be expected to spend a lot of time
| formulating your response when giving free help.  However, that does not
| justify your abusive attitude.

  Look, as far as I am concerned, _you_ are the abusive party here.

| I suspect you [...]

  Please confine your guesswork about me to yourself.  Posting your personal
  guesswork about other people is rude and gravely obnoxious no matter what
  kind of stupid rationalization you use to defend your poor choice.  And to
  think that you are opposed to abusive behavior!  I hate such hypocrites!

| I would not have posted this if I thought my comments applied to just one
| individual.

  Yeah, yeah, of course you speak for others.  That is very pretentious of you.

| In some sense I am being drawn in now, but its my own hostility to bullies
| that is really responsible.

  Of course you are the responsible party.  Nothing beats rationalizing your
  own hostilities more than pretending to do it in the name of some "Good".

  Control and confine your own goddamn rude behavior, you abusive do-gooder!

  Meta-debate is the _essence_ of abuse on USENET.  Nothing good _ever_ comes
  out of them, except that some disgusted moron is supposed to feel better for
  reaching desperately for the moral high ground and expressing his _lack_ of
  ethics by pretending that he is the only moral person around.  It is haughty
  and most religions have deities that strike such venomous beings down.  There
  is ample reason to believe that aggressive rejection of moralists is very
  good for the communities that have made both habit and rule of it, as such
  people tend to be _extremely_ annoying and in serious danger of losing life
  and limb in real life.
  Guide to non-spammers: If you want to send me a business proposal, please be
  specific and do not put "business proposal" in the Subject header.  If it is
  urgent, do not use the word "urgent".  If you need an immediate answer, give
  me a reason, do not shout "for your immediate attention".  Thank you.