From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!uio.no!news-feed.ifi.uio.no!ifi.uio.no!not-for-mail From: Erik Naggum Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: The Next Generation of Lisp Programmers Date: 26 Aug 2002 20:48:04 +0000 Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 30 Message-ID: <3239383684345231@naggum.no> References: <3239150725773370@naggum.no> <3239282082503601@naggum.no> <87adn9jwzx.fsf@cinifa.internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: maud.ifi.uio.no 1030394885 11631 129.240.64.16 (26 Aug 2002 20:48:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ifi.uio.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Aug 2002 20:48:05 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:38869 * Bulent Murtezaoglu | Is it just me getting old or were ingorant and incompetent people more | apologetic in the 80s? Whatever competence they had got them there to begin with, so they had some sense of accomplishment and skill and self-esteem and knew they could learn on the job. Todays's ignorants and incompetents know that they were not hired for their competence, but for their replaceability. If they learn new skills, they are expected to seek other employment. If they are discovered as frauds, they are expected to be looking for other employment. When the managers do not value their employees as people, they get worthless people as employees. Note that a healthy reward for some random accomplishment does more harm than good to a person's sense of worth, especially the very dangerous feeling that they will not be able to repeat the accomplishment. Today's incompetents are arrogant for a reason. It is both fear of the dire consequences of any realization of just /how/ incompetent they are. Like people with inflated self-esteem will turn to violence when their egos are threatened, and that could be nothing worse than bringing it down to realistic levels, people who believe they are something because they hold a job better than they are will consider /any/ sign of not doing this job well as a threat to their very livelihood. A competent man wants to learn when someone points out a flaw or error. An incompetent will defend himself. This is how they became what they are. -- Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder. Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.