From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.algonet.se!algonet!newsfeed1.bredband.com!bredband!uio.no!nntp.uio.no!ifi.uio.no!not-for-mail From: Erik Naggum Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: religion Date: 05 Sep 2002 16:24:29 +0000 Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 58 Message-ID: <3240231869826742@naggum.no> References: <7ed8f64d.0209011823.6c7ceeca@posting.google.com> <7ed8f64d.0209020319.1d5fb809@posting.google.com> <871y8b7jyx.fsf@radish.petrofsky.org> <3D74E9DC.29F6FBB@his.com> <87bs7e8z4d.fsf@snark.piermont.com> <87fzwq79dz.fsf@snark.piermont.com> <3240097371783391@naggum.no> <878z2h5wkw.fsf@snark.piermont.com> <3240169041516327@naggum.no> <87it1l2lup.fsf_-_@snark.piermont.com> <87znuxi1bq.fsf@becket.becket.net> <87bs7d114v.fsf@snark.piermont.com> <3240199350847640@naggum.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: maud.ifi.uio.no 1031243072 2748 129.240.64.16 (5 Sep 2002 16:24:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ifi.uio.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Sep 2002 16:24:32 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.scheme:13969 comp.lang.lisp:39775 * Ray Blaak | I wasn't in fact complaining, only observing. Oh, come on! You selectively "observe" and provide a complaint as a result because you rate your selective observations. If you were truly /observing/, you would not feel such an enormous need to post a conclusion. | Think about it: this thread is *about* the tolerance levels of the | newsgroups. I have in fact observed that the vast majority of the idiotic fights in comp.lang.lisp are caused by some idiot who "observes" how hostile the newsgroup is -- to people who come to it to complain and do not even have the mental wherewithall to realize that they cannot both observe and comment negatively at the same time. The two are mutually exclusive. If you post your stupid observation, you elevate the things you have selected to some mystical importance where all the other observations that you probably did not even notice, vanish in the noise. The fact is, /you/ highlight negative experiences and fit into the long line of people who have nothing to offer to this forum except your idiotic conclusions, /not/ observations, about the forum. If we could find a way to get rid of these moronic meta-debates that people like you start and falsely accuse people of things you have not even bothered to pay attention to, your kind would not have much anything to complain about, either. | It is disingenuous to simply consider as invalid any position that is | pointing out the problem. But /why/ did you feel like posting your negative comment to begin with? | The fix is not necessarily to make sure nobody responds to the cretins. All | that is required is for people to lighten up, bigtime. That is, don't get | angry, upset, annoyed, etc., so easily. So do your part and don't piss people off with your selective "observations". | There are gentler ways with dealing with the clueless that are simply more | effective, namely, pointing out the error of their ways *without* invective | convulsions, and then if they don't get it, simply ignoring them or the | entire thread. Yeah, and I see your name trying to do this all the time, right? You would not even understand what you do until you have posted several thousand helpful messages to morons who want you to do their homework, to hold their hands, to answer their next question and the next because they are to fucking stupid to be able to figure out anything on their own. Do this for a while and tell me that you follow your own advice. | You yourself have improved dramatically in the last number of months, making | an obviously concerted effort to reign things in. I honestly congratulate you. Fuck you. So why did you have to complain? Goddamn whining negativists. -- Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder. Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.