Subject: Re: religion
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 05 Sep 2002 17:32:02 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
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* keke@ma.ccom (Takehiko Abe)
| Love/Hate is mutual. Does Lisp community love O'Reilly?  I doubt that.

  The sad thing about love and hate is that they are both normally unrequited.
  Some have argued that all real love is inrequited.  What makes this so sad,
  is that those who hate somebody else who don't give a flying fsck about them
  is that they make a lot of noise just to be heard and seen as human beings.
  Invisibility in the eyes of somebody you love or hate can be really painful
  and the reason people do so many stupid things when these emotions place
  themselves between their intellect and their actions is precisely that they
  crave attention, much like a lonely cat.

| I hate O'Reilly books. It is puzzling that those who demand all software to
| be free and chant 'Proprietary!' in every occasion are so willing to pay for
| O'Reilly's books.

  It seems to be a political decision on your part.  I like their books because
  they usually manage to find authors who are way smarter than the average
  crop many other publishers seem to attract.  Their Nutshell Handbooks are
  quite frequently /the/ essential reference.  For the areas where I have no
  desire to become an expert, I have also found their offerings very good.

  There is no doubt that O'Reilly have profited on the Open Source movement.
  I can hardly fault them for that -- I have some 40 volumes from them to date
  and they have even sent me a couple books free of charge, so I can only say
  that I am quite satisfied with them.

Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.