From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news.powertech.no!uninett.no!news-feed.ifi.uio.no!ifi.uio.no!not-for-mail From: Erik Naggum Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: About the realization of an interpreter Date: 12 Sep 2002 17:20:30 +0000 Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 42 Message-ID: <3240840030241227@naggum.no> References: <3D7DBA4B.8090106@neusoft.com> <87znup1xuw.fsf@jmmr.no-ip.com> <3240691754337335@naggum.no> <87y9a8v2dj.fsf@jmmr.no-ip.com> <3240760157137407@naggum.no> <874rcvmn0x.fsf@jmmr.no-ip.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: maud.ifi.uio.no 1031851231 12925 129.240.64.16 (12 Sep 2002 17:20:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ifi.uio.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 2002 17:20:31 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:40471 * der_julian@web.de (J.St.) | So please do not talk about my "local public library" and my personal | habits, if you do not know them. Look who forgot their chill pill this morning. You are the one to keep giving us useless information on your personal habits. Most normal people do not share their personal problems and habits with others just because they have them. What you show us is that you do not want to solve your problem and continue to produce excuses when you get suggestions. Nobody cares about your excuses -- significant effort has been invested in trying to give you more options to choose from. If you take this personally, you need help to get over whatever causes you to whine and suffer and not solve your own problems. However, I know enough about your negativistic attitudes by now that I am not going to help you again -- you refuse and reject all the help you get. You undoubtedly think of the help as instructions and commands to do something you would not otherwise do, but you are in your predicament because of the things you have not done. If this fact annoys you, do not take it out on other people who actually try to find ways for you to achieve your stated goals. I actually assume that people are highly rational, goal-oriented, motivated, focused, intelligent, and honest about their goals when they ask a group of people for help on something the newsgroup population knows something about. I expect newcomers to know these expectations because they would like to frequent fora where people hold all of the above as values in their personal lives as well as in their communication. I get pissed off by people who are irrational, lack focus and motivation, and act stupidly when faced with suggestions on how to reach what looks like their goals, and I provide people with (strong) hints on what they should do in order to be useful to the forum and find the forum useful to themselves. Most of the time, this works excellently. People get the idea fast if they ever had any other notions of what a newsgroup is for, and become useful members of the forum. Some do not get it, and never will, because they do not consider any of the above values in human relationships and communication. Their main goal appears to be to find "sulking partners" who will validate their pain. I am sure there are newsgroups for which this is the stated and achieved purpose. -- Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder. Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.