From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!uio.no!nntp.uio.no!ifi.uio.no!not-for-mail From: Erik Naggum Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: The toxicity of trolls Date: 25 Sep 2002 22:31:25 +0000 Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 36 Message-ID: <3241981885643363@naggum.no> References: <3D907716.1070304@web.de> <3241890381047542@naggum.no> <3D9163CE.95C4A177@ilt.fhg.de> <3241945050586549@naggum.no> <3D91BC3C.AE4F4EF3@ilt.fhg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: maud.ifi.uio.no 1032993086 21094 129.240.65.5 (25 Sep 2002 22:31:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ifi.uio.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Sep 2002 22:31:26 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:42041 * Rolf Wester | No surprise, I expected that answer. I am Norwegian and I am very sensitive to people from the Wehrmacht telling Norwegians what to do or not to do. You tried that once and it left serious scars in the Norwegian soul. Will you pay attention to my sensitivity or consider it my problem? I think you should do the latter and that it is obscene to bring up personal sensitivities because of one's /nationality/. So your nationally induced sensitivity is your problem. Keep it to yourself. If you do not, you very strongly communicate that your sensitivities are more important than every other sensitivity to which the author has already paid due respect. Such egoistic behavior is typical of people who want others to feel bad because they perceive themselves as victims. Cut it out. The whole world is well aware of the guilt-ridden German psyche, but I have one piece of /really/ good advice for you: Get the hell over it. "Untermensch" is defined by Oxford's excellent dictionaries of the English Language this way a person considered racially or socially inferior. Of course it is a strong term that should elicit emotions, but the arrogance and haughtiness of Germans who think their personal sensitivities should cause other people to curb their language and the things they can talk about is one of the most appalling cases of emotional blackmail and censorship around. (Another most appalling case of same is how the Jews /milk/ their tragedy more than 50 years later.) People who prey on the guilt that they want other people to feel should receive no sympathy whatsoever. -- Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder. Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.