Subject: Re: Understanding Erik Naggum
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 05 Oct 2002 12:22:58 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Erann Gat
| What I hoped to achieve was to be able to conduct a conversation with you
| without it degenerating into insults.

  So quit being so fucking obnoxious and annoying, you pestering idiot.

| I hoped to make you see that you engage in the same behavior that you
| decry in others.  It is astonishing to me that anyone can read (or write)
| the paragraph above and not be rocked by its blatant hypocricy.

  Of course you are.  Mirrors are forbidden in certain places because of you.

| Many people whom I believe could make constructive contributions here have
| fled c.l.l. because of you.

  I have to fight /someone/.  You are one of them at a large number of
  occasions.  Take some responsibility for your own goddamn evil behavior.

| I know because they have sent me private emails encouraging my efforts
| here.

  Ah,  Brilliant.  You're a fucking /saint/ on a holy mission from God to
  save the world.  And there are nutjobs insane enough to cheer you on!

| I hoped to change things so that they might return.

  Quit attacking me.  Quit attracking the other nutjobs in more fights.

| I hoped to change things so that visitors to c.l.l. would not made to
| feel like pariahs for taking umbrage when someone calls them a shithead.

  How about how I feel after yet another round of you evil bastards?

  Such selective sympathy is a good symptom of true evil.

| Now I have had my fill of it for a while, so I am going walkabout (again)
| where there be not Naggums (to paraphrase one of the people who has
| written me privately concerning my efforts here).

  Good.  Leave us alone for good.

| If there's anyone left out there who still cares about what I have to
| say, my email address is

  Fuck off, Erann Gat.  This time, it was your fault that Ray Blaak and
  Raffael Cavallero got back here and started with their fantastically evil
  behavior, once again.

Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.