Subject: Re: Understanding Erik Naggum
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 07 Oct 2002 20:41:26 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

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| I accept that my continued arguments with Erik are completely useless,
| but Erik is 50% party to them.

  Those are the words of a person who is unable accept responsibility for
  his own actions.

| They are partly in jest as I do not really hate Erik or am angry.

  Jest elsewhere.

| But he acts like a child sometimes.

  It is the only thing you know to compare with.

| I did not use such language other than responding to Erik.  He uses it,
| so I do.

  Shirking responsibility for your own actions, again.

| There are a few here who appreciate what he does.

  Those who are able to focus on their job.

| I was not being antisocial.

  Yes, you are.  You are the epitome of anti-social.  Complete with blaming
  me for your own actions.

| I just let off a bit of steam at people who have double standards.

  You are the one with double standards here.

| They jump on people unnecessarily and I dont see even one "please stop
| that Erik".

  But now that you see someone ask you to stop, you refuse to do so because
  nobody aske me to stop?  That is the anti-social personality disorder
  right there.

| I see now, what some have mentioned (to me) about this topic.  You are
| ready to accept any behaviour if the proponant is an expert.

  Your inferiority complex is /really/ disgusting and repulsive to behold.

| Of course he has a lot to give to you (maybe) and I am of no consequence.

  You are truly of no consequence.

| Unfortunately I do not share you morals.

  You do not any morals.

| Please note that I only commented after Erik had crosses my limit of
| tolerance with his bullshit.

  Once again a failure to accept responsibility for your own actions.

| Everyone has a limit, even you.  >15 months, I am hanging out here.  I
| comment only after that.

  Do you expect praise because it took you a long time to go mad?

| I see people getting fed up and going away.

  No, you do not.

| This is bad for the community.  My community too.

  A community of whining losers who want to feel good will quickly die.

| My knowledge of Lisp is in the starting phases.

  No shit, Sherlock.  Yet you have lots of opinions and think you should
  castigate those who can help you.  Are you fucking nuts? What do you want
  to gain from reading articles in this forum now that you have proved to
  have an anti-social personality disorder?

| You all have had an head start.

  Oh, Christ.  One of those.

| That does not mean I or other newcomers have no right to speak out.

  You have no right to speak out.  Nobody has any such "right".

| We (newcomers) very much respect and appreciate the time you people spend
| here in explaining things to us.

  No, you do not.

| Most have said so in more words.

  And you were the one who came up with the idea that people would be nice
  only because they wanted a piece of the rich man's pile, was it not?
  What makes you think that anyone should /not/ believe that you are nice
  only because you want something from others?

| If this is a forum for Lisp experts then they do not need a public forum.

  This is not for you to decide.

| I am sure they are rich enouch to have email addresses.

  Be happy that the experts are still using a medium you can read.

| Justifying Eriks behaviour makes you party to it.

  You /really/ are quite insane.

| Expert or no expert he was /plain/ wrong.

  You are not the judge of these things.

  You snotty little fuck, you need to realize that this is a meritocracy.
  You have no rights to speak out.  You either help people achieve their
  goals for which this newsgroup was designed to help people, or you are a
  serious detraction from other people's achievement of such goals.  You
  are not in the category who can really help anyone with anything, yet.
  Yet you make a lot of noise along with the other evil retards who gang up
  on me because you have serious emotional coping problems.

  You make things /worse/, you dumbfuck.  Take responsibility for that.

Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.