Subject: Re: Understanding Erik Naggum
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 08 Oct 2002 15:18:48 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Pascal Costanza
| However, I am using "cold language" in the same way as Erik does, as a
| short name for the emotion-free and neutral language he is referring to.

  I have reason to believe that you do not understand what it means.

| He is just not using the most effective communication techniques for the
| purpose at hand.

  Yes, I am.  Thank you very much.  If the really tiny fraction of feel-
  good guys could please stop attacking me personally when I fail to stroke
  your ego and pat you on the head while I correct your mistakes or inform
  you of better ways to achieve your (underlying) goals, things would be
  fine.  The problem is that people like you, you do not actually want to
  program in Common Lisp when you post articles to a forum for those who
  want program in Common Lisp, need to have your personal worth and your
  feelings validated.  This is not the place to do that kind of touchy-
  feely stuff.

  Has it ever occurred to you that the people who actually want to program
  in Common Lisp in this newsgroup gain a lot of valuable information from
  people who are /not/ talking about how to feel good?  The worst part is
  that you feel-good guys really think you have a monopoly on the most
  effective communication techniques, yet you do not actually program in
  Common Lisp, so what the fuck would you know, anyway?

  I got an interesting e-mail the other day, from which I quote one of the
  best responses to this idiotic warring by you emotional twits I have
  seen.  Simple, straight-forward, to the point, and with "cold" language:

          I already know how to flame.  I am here to learn Lisp.

  Clearly, you feel-good guys are /not/ here to learn Common Lisp.

Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.