Subject: Re: Difference between LISP and C++
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 29 Oct 2002 01:35:19 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Len Charest <>
| Having never seen Fox News, I can't decipher your association of it with
| paranoia. But it seems typical of the longjmps of logic made by the
| zombified defenders of Naggum.

  At a very early stage of development, most babies discover that there is
  a distinction between that which is and that which is not themselves.  At
  some later stage, they discover that what they have been able to figure
  out about themselves also applies to other people.  This is the crucial
  leap of empathy that some people seem to have skipped.  At an even later
  stage, people discover, often much to their dismay, that other people are
  not /exactly/ like themselves, that they cannot assume that others are
  the same as they are, that extrapolating from their own reactions and
  feelings are valid only so far.  A large number of people are so ordinary
  that they see deviations from their extrapolations from themselves so
  infrequently that they can immediately turn to denigratory statements
  like "you're wierd" or "you're nuts" or similar mental images that such
  people create of others in their own likeness -- where failure to be
  exactly like themselves, which is to say, exactly like /everybody/, is
  the sole reason for their rejection of other people.  As soon as a real
  person crops up in their peripheral vision as something different from
  what they have previously considered to be the only possible normal
  people, their primary reaction is abject fear and hostility towards that
  which threatens their group identity.  To be different is to be indecent.

  People who have failed to realize that not everybody is like themselves
  make two grave mistakes. The first is to tell people that they have failed
  to develop into human beings.  The second is to show people how they view
  themselves by the way they describe other people.  In this light, consider
  the phrase "the zombified defenders of Naggum" -- which incredibly
  accurately describes my /attackers/, but not my defenders.  I actually
  find it highly amusing how some people are willing to make such enormous
  fools of themselves in public simply because their ersatz brain is so
  unevolved as to consider their self-destructive behavior /justified/ by
  their self-destructive feelings, misdirected towards another human being,
  which they routinely show that they do not consider a human being at all:
  That which is not as depraved and base as themselves shall not be allowed
  to exist and shall definitely not be respected.  What we see in animals
  like Len Charest is the precursor to modern man, the brutality of the
  pack animal that has met something superior to itself and needs to gang
  up on it and destroy it.  Rest assured that this character believes
  himself to be of a group who has similar thoughts to himself -- the very
  concept of independent thought is incommensurate with this behavior.  The
  pack animal that most of all fears standing alone attacks those who stand
  alone because they mock his deepest fear.  It would be hard to imagine
  anything less evolved that can still read and write.

  What has me wondering, however, is what happened to JPL that they could
  hire such a person, apparently twice.

Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.