Subject: Re: Difference between LISP and C++
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 29 Oct 2002 03:22:07 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* arien <spammers_suck@getlost.invalid>
| You expect me not to get upset when you insult me?  Mr Nagger insulted me
| by suggesting I was dumb. I got upset about that, and I won't apologise
| for that.

  But insluting other people is perfectly acceptable for you?  I must admit
  to some fascination with the kinds of people that make up this world, but
  one of the saddest things is that I begin to understand how the American
  people could have "elected" George W. Bush.

| Whether he is right or wrong is no excuse for his behaviour.

  But that you are wrong is apparently an excuse for yours.

| I'm NOT going to apologise for my lack of knowledge.

  It is by now clear that you do not intend to do anything about it.

| My actions were of someone who was upset about being insulted.

  Yet insluting other people and playing the victim is par for the course?

| Just because I didn't tolerate the insults very well, DOES NOT make me a
| child.

  Well, you can basically choose between a child and a retarded adult.

| When Mr. Nagger started insulting me and abusing me, I had done nothing
| wrong.

  You have more than made up for it by now, dear.

| Now, you seem to perceive that I'm some little spoilt kid - and yet
| Mr. Nagger is considered right for his actions.

  Yet this does not make you think?

| Being *adult* includes being tolerant of newbies, and allow them to make
| mistakes.

  No, being adult means helping people get /out/ of newbiehood.

| Just because a newbie says "I heard that lisp is an interpreted
| language", doesn't mean they are a troll!

  Yes, unfortunately, it does.  You do not get to make these rules.

| Remember, you are *not* a newbie, so you must be much more responsible 
| in your actions, and much more tolerant of ignorant posts.

  Wonderful!  As if lack of knowledge and experience was not sufficiently
  repetitively used as an excuse for your immature behavior, you now make
  it clear that if you should ever learn something, /you/ would have to act
  more responsibly, as well, which, for you, is a massive /disincentive/ to
  stop being a newbie.

  Where are the snipers when you really need them?

Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.